In this final interview conducted for Season 1, Deborah has the opportunity to chat with friend and colleague from Cape Town, Kieron McRae. 

Kieron is a 20 year veteran of organizational change management and he has done some really complex change work in the areas of inclusion and diversity in a country where segregation was legislated and part of the societal fabric for more than 40 years.  In this episode, Kieron discusses his personal experiences of how more companies are starting to realise the importance of placing workplace culture on their strategic agenda and he encourages leaders to actively spend time crafting their culture and discussing progress in their executive management meetings. 

Kieron talks about how there is no silver bullet and how it takes bravery and courage to make some of the tough decisions that inevitably need to be made in order to  create a great workplace culture where there is transparency, collaboration and a commitment to lifelong learning.